How OO Almost Destroyed a Business
December 24, 2009
Posted in Community
Posted By: Chris Peters
Adam Fortuna
Nice response Chris. I don't do CF work really anymore myself, but if I did I'd be using Wheels. Looking into it definitely made CF more fun, while not worrying as much about the outside community opinion. Very easy to get into.
May 26, 2009
Chris Peters
Thanks Adam. Back in the day, you did at least one good write-up of Wheels that I can remember. While sometimes I poke at the CF experts, I do want to clarify that I love them to death. It boggles the mind when you stop and think about what they've done for us. From writing the CFWACK to the software that this very blog is running on, most of us are forever in debt to them. I think I can speak on behalf of the Wheels community by saying that we need to bring the fun back into ColdFusion. There's potential for some really cool stuff to come out of CF because it is such a great toolset.
May 26, 2009
James White
I will have to give CF Wheels a look and see what's up. I have been chasing Java and OO for about 3-5 years now and almost lost the desire to continue programming. I was tired of learning one having to constantly learn this framework and Server Platform or that framework and Server Platform on top of what you needed to know for basic JEE web development (core Java, JSP, and Servlets). I am all for learning, I just wonder at what point do you stop learning and start coding? I think the CF community became too obsessed with being just like Java (me included). I have made a good living off of CF for 10 years, and yet I still felt like I had to learn Java, JEE, Struts, Spring, Hibernate, etc. to be a "good programmer". Again, thanks for the post.
May 28, 2009
Ike
Much the way I feel about the onTap framework as well. I'm having some trouble with a domain transfer on the site right now, but the riaforge project is still up http://ontap.riaforge.org -- unfortunately because the DNS isn't resolving, the webservice I created for installing framework plugins isn't working. D'oh! But when it works it makes adding stuff in a snap. :)
Sep 10, 2009
Chris Peters
Thanks for commenting, Ike! I heard your interview on CF Conversations and have wanted to give onTap a try. I'll have to check it out sometime soon.
Sep 11, 2009
Ike
Thanks Chris. Getting CF on Wheels into the frameworks comparison article I wrote a while ago (where I ported Galleon Forums to several different frameworks) has been on my list of things to get to for a while, but it always seems like I've got so much else going on... Although my articles about the Galleon project are my most read articles on my blog and I think it'd be helpful for the Wheels community too. :) In case you hadn't seen the blogs or the report, the first blog article about it is here: http://ontap.riaforge.org/blog/index.cfm/2008/5/22/Galleon There was also an online CFUG presentation on the Galleon project here http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/calendar/9779454/?from=list&offset=0 ... Of course if you've got time to port Galleon yourself, I'd be happy to put it in there, otherwise I'd like to get to it although I'm not sure when.
Sep 11, 2009
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